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Does absolute truth change? How can the theory of evolution be absolute truth when it's in constant evolution?
It has been re-written, re-evaluated and adapted to fit with the latest scientific findings. Just like the name implies, it’s a theory that evolves. It is not what it was in the 19th century. Does absolute truth change? Does primeval history change? The answer should be no to both, so why are the two creation accounts of Genesis not taken for what they’re worth?
Absolute truth does not change, by definition.
I do not believe the theory of evolution fits the facts observed in nature. Still, your argument against it is weak. There are MUCH better arguments out there, keep reading!
Dippy_doodle | Nov 02, 2009
Who claimed that the theory of evolution is absolute truth?
Anon | Nov 02, 2009
Fraud.
Critter | Nov 02, 2009
It hasn’t changed in 150 years.
American Idol | Nov 02, 2009
"the two creation accounts of Genesis"
fnord.
vorenhutz | Nov 02, 2009
First off, I don’t hear people calling the theory of evolution an ‘absolute truth’.
Secondly, you lost me on your references to Genesis. What ‘worth’ are you referring to? And why do you seem to think that the stories of Genesis and the theory of evolution contradict each other? They don’t have to, it depends on how liberal you are in decided what a ‘day’ is as far as god is concerned.
harpertara | Nov 02, 2009
Absolutes are ideals and only exist in people’s minds.
Captain Future, Man of Tomorrow | Nov 02, 2009
A stopped clock never changes, either. I don’t use it to keep appointments; I take it for what it’s worth.
Same thing with the account in Genesis.
AndiGravity | Nov 02, 2009
No one claims that the Theory (note the capital T!) of Evolution is an absolute truth. The Theory changes if information is provided to show that there are errors. This is one of the fundamental strengths of science - it corrects itself if there are errors found. The fundamentals of the Theory of Evolution are sound, have proven evidence, have been observed and are considered to be completely scientifically valid. Read a book on DNA and you might understand why.
Paul Hxyz | Nov 02, 2009
If you want to take Genesis as literal, then you have to take the entire book as literal. You can’t pick and chose parts at your convenience, it either is or it isn’t.
So, if you take Genesis as literal, you also must take stoning to death those woman who have sex before marriage as literal. And that woman aren’t allowed to speak in church as literal. And all the other fun little things that the bible has hiding in it.
Wanna walk down this road with me? I’ll hold your hand if you’re a little scared.
TL | Nov 02, 2009
"Absolute truth" does not change. But how do we know we have found it? Because a book says so?
The only way to get close to absolute truth is to adjust and modify what you hold to be true in line with the evidence of what is actually true.
For example, there is one, true explanation for the diversity of life on this planet. There are many, many explanations. It may be the case one is correct, it may be the case none are. The only way to determine which is "most likely" or "closest to the truth" is to evaluate the evidence we can find, and match what we think is the truth to the evidence.
Science does this. Religion does not. Religious teachings, in the context of science, are therefore taken for what they are worth - which is absolutely nothing.
aaronmsl | Nov 02, 2009
You really must be sitting on your brain….you do realize that a "theory" is different than an "absolute truth" don’t you? If not, I suggest you get a further education, beyond "sunday school"
Photographer | Nov 02, 2009
It’s being refined as more information comes to light. Is that so bad?
Something Smells Fishy | Nov 02, 2009
"Absolute truth" is a childish religious notion. No real thinker pretends that anything is absolute truth.
Fred | Nov 02, 2009
It never claimed to be "absolute truth"
That is why Theories are never said to be 100% proved and no longer open for testing
Because as our tools get better we can learn more about the natural world and things are updated so that we have the best possible truth that we can know at the time with what we are given.
So the Theory of Evolution is a scientific Theory backed up by facts and evidence
Genesis is a creation myth in the bible which has not changed one bit since someone wrote it down after many generations of an oral history and has no proof at all in any way behind it let alone anything to do with the natural world
As for the idea of "absolute truth"…there is no such thing..not as humans can define it.
There is no truth so absolute that it never changes.
1) killing is wrong..unless it is for food or self defense or to protect innocent or grant mercy to someone in pain
2) what goes up comes down…except when in orbit or drifting between galaxies, etc
3) people need to drink water….yet there is water toxicity which can kill a person
there is no such thing as an absolute truth and if you think there is then you have not paid attention or learned anything that relates to this space-time reality
Shaz | Nov 03, 2009
In order to dispute your argument, notice how all of your evolutionary respondents are insisting that evolution is not absolute truth and it is only a theory and it hasn’t changed etc. Yet, these are the very same people who in the same breath when answering another question in order to denigrate creationists will insist that evolution is a FACT (absolute truth) which is so beyond question that anyone who does is an idiot. In addition, if you attempt to quote Darwin, they will insist that modern evolutionary theory is very different than what Darwin proposed. How absolutely hypocritical! This goes to show how evolution is so plastic, it will bend to any argument despite the evidence or logic involved.
Edit: Creation theory is supported by a vast array of evidence and has made many successful predictions which have been verified. This is the hallmark of a successful scientific theory. There is not a single scientific fact that is in contradiction to the accurate eye-witness account of our origins from Genesis. In fact, there is mountains of evidence that support creation theories based on these accounts. It is the ONLY eye-witness account of our origins that has been scientifically researched and verified and that is why it is singled out. There is significant evidence to show that the writings we have from Genesis are nearly identical to the original authors. These writings were considered holy and have been meticulously transcribed. In addition, because people originally lived much longer than we do today, not many generations have actually passed. There is no history we know of, beyond that which is described in the timeframe of the Bible. The fact that nearly all cultures have similar stories of our origins (such as flood stories) supports the truth of the Bible. Other versions have been corrupted from the original Genesis account which remains accurate for many reasons including those outlined above.
raisemeup | Nov 03, 2009
Scientific theories are not considered absolute truth. That is because they can be revised as new evidence is found. That is true for all scientific theories, not just the theory of evolution.
If a scientific theory has been repeatedly verified, it is considered to be an approximation of reality. Most such theories, including the theory of evolution, are refined as new evidence is found. This may result in minor changes or it may expand the theory into a larger area of coverage.
The theory of evolution is supported by a vast array of evidence, and several predictions have been derived from it which have been verified. That is the hallmark of a successful scientific theory.
The two creation accounts in Genesis have absolutely no valid scientific evidence to support them. They are flat-out contrary to reality, despite the misrepresentations of fact that the creationists indulge in.
Why single out the creation accounts in Genesis as something to be taken for what they are worth? There are many other creation accounts that other ancient peoples came up with to explain existence. Why not give them the same consideration? The fact is there is no more reason to believe any one over any other.
truthseeker | Nov 04, 2009
The universe is infinitely complex yet all scientific theories have only finite complexity, thus all scientific theories are forever incomplete. If all scientific theories are always incomplete, our understanding of all science will be forever incomplete and absolute truth, in the broadest sense, becomes unattainable. In spite of this, there is no limit to what science can explore and explain as long as science remains dynamic - reacting to new discoveries by adding new concepts, new theories, new principles. Therefore true science can never be a static, eternal, absolute truth; and any science that does not change over time is not true science. (ex: Gregory Chaitin)
Concerning the creation accounts in Genesis, their worth is found in their relation to similar literature, and how these literary devices inform our continually changing human cultures:
A Dictionary of Creation Myths - by D. Leeming & M. Adams Leeming
http://books.google.com/books?id=vetARxZ S-bMC&printsec=frontcover&source =gbs_navlinks_s#v=onepage&q=&f=f alse
To consider creation myths as literal truth misses the point just as the literal interpretation of apocalyptic myths misses the point.
The Revelation to John
http://www.westminster.edu/staff/brennie /rel101/revelati.htm
don | Nov 06, 2009
No. Absolute truth does not change. Our understanding of it and how close we are to it, may change with time. But science is the only human endeavor that eventually leads us closer to the truth.
If there are some aspects of our current understanding evolution that are wrong, they will be figured out by better science, not by politicians, theologians, or lawyers.
asgspifs | Nov 06, 2009
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